I strongly believe that "what we do" -- what we must do, to save Humanity -- is to put a stop to this VAST wealth, put a stop to the means of power and control, and stop allowing this kind of pathological personality (pathological, or mentally SICK) to have power over others.
I think I have a pretty good idea of what it's like to be a psychopath or sociopath... almost the same thing... and I will try to explain it in layperson's terms, because I'm a lay person! in my next post. This is a very strong and heart-ful post, Elizabeth. Thank you! xo
Absolutely I agree. I wonder if people with wealth are so equated with success, held up as deities by our culture that many don't stop to question. Similarly with MDs as well.
Thank you for your acknowledgement!!!!
I'm afraid I understand sociopaths as well. Although I hate using that word to describe someone I've known. I am always concerned it does not engender understanding. Although in what I am speaking to here, that is something else.
For the psychopath to prosper, the average person must be gullible and weak.
It is not possible for psychopaths to dominate if they can't hypnotize masses of people into going along. But all hypnosis is accepted willingly and is desired by those hypnotized.
I don't know about desired. I feel what we are seeing being played out is more about trust and innocence.
I would also suggest that people live their lives, those whose lives have not been interrupted. Some have had to work very hard not to loose businesses that they have built up over many years.
They have put their trust in 'health organizations' and there is no reason they wouldn't. They believe the brainwashing, it's been a massive campaign. The reason they believe is built on structures put in place a long time ago. I don't believe they are gullible or weak. It isn't what I see.
Why would you distrust an organization named the Center for Disease Control. They are after all meant to protect the citizens of the US.
The reason for my sibling comment is because over the past year, I attempted to red-pill everyone I care about. Some people took the red pill; most did not.
In some cases, I was in an ideal position. A decades-long relationship with mutual trust, where I was able to incentivize the person, goad them out of their comfort zone, MAKE them take the information seriously and process it.
In this most ideal situation, the person took the information seriously, processed it, and it made them depressed. The person then rejected the information once again, resorted to ridicule, and our relationship concluded on the following note:
"Maybe it turns out you're right. But I can't live like this. If I believe this, it makes me depressed. Then I suffer and people suffer around me."
My wife can take the information, but a lower dose than me. If she spends too much time on it, it causes despair and panic.
There are other people who accepted the red pill, but it makes them depressed and they don't want to hear too much about it.
But most people reject the red pill in the first place. They can't bear to acknowledge it.
This is what I mean by gullibility and weakness. The hypnotized desire the hypnosis.
The hypnotist provides a story, and the hypnotized want to believe it.
The reason we can't red-pill people is not because we lack evidence, it's because they don't want to look into it.
The reason they don't want to look into it is because they don't like uncomfortable truths. They prefer nice things and nice stories.
We could literally have the New York Times publish everything we know as fact. All it would take for the hypnotized to continue their hypnosis, would be for the New York Times to also publish the opposite narrative in another article in the same issue.
They believe lies because they choose to. They like them. They want them. They cannot, do not want to face discomfort.
I understand what you are saying. I often think if I could invent stories to tell myself (about something else) I might believe them and I would shift. I suppose the invented stories are the one's most believe and they can live their lives as if an insanely massive tsunami is not heading their way. As if there is not something terrifying in their body. (hot lots and all, we can't know how this is going to look)
It's not necessarily "feelings" we're talking about here... maybe. I think there's a difference between what we call "feelings" and we call "attitudes" or "ideation." There's a huge difference, to me, between what most of us would call "compassion," and what some would call "superiority." One can say "I feel superior to other animals," and still have compassion for them. But if someone feels superior to other humans, as in, ALL other humans, and feels NO compassion for them, or for animals, that is deemed to be pathological... The term sociopath can be broken down into "socio" or other people, and "path" or pathology, which is sickness. Same sort of thing for "psychopath"-- "psyche" is the root word for the "mind" and again, "path" being sickness. As a layperson, and NOT a trained psychologist, it's my understanding that sociopaths differ from psychopaths in that a sociopath may be created by circumstances; a psychopath appears to be born that way. Sociopaths also seem to have some kind of concern for say, their family, offspring, etc. Psychopaths appear to have concern only for their families in as far as their families obey them and carry on their "name." In either case, and particularly in the case of a psychopath, there is no conscience, and no ability to understand the feelings of others. To a psychopath, everyone and everything else, anywhere, is an object, and the object has a duty to serve the psychopath. Clinicians call this "pathology." I call it "Evil." The utter lack of concern for other people, even death of others, utter destruction, and a distinct inclination to gain satisfaction or even excitement from the suffering and/or death of others, is the nature of Evil, in my view.
No offense, I am not religious, but well-educated in Christianity and therefore somewhat in the Old Testament as well... Some people consider Scripture as almost a dictation. I do not. Because an ancient man wrote something about what "God" thinks, says, or feels, does not make it necessarily correct. ALL of our belief systems are just that... Belief. That's my view of it anyway. Remember, this is the same book that talks about creating the Earth in a week, and Eve being created from a rib of Adam. Metaphor, and surely inaccurate, in the world we live in today. Sorry if I am treating any of your beliefs in a sort of callous way.
Sometimes I wonder if two people are in complete agreement but can't find their way to each other. That words are like fences or barricades creating more separation than union.
I do not in any way mean to imply that you both do not have a beautiful facility of thought.
I strongly believe that "what we do" -- what we must do, to save Humanity -- is to put a stop to this VAST wealth, put a stop to the means of power and control, and stop allowing this kind of pathological personality (pathological, or mentally SICK) to have power over others.
I think I have a pretty good idea of what it's like to be a psychopath or sociopath... almost the same thing... and I will try to explain it in layperson's terms, because I'm a lay person! in my next post. This is a very strong and heart-ful post, Elizabeth. Thank you! xo
Absolutely I agree. I wonder if people with wealth are so equated with success, held up as deities by our culture that many don't stop to question. Similarly with MDs as well.
Thank you for your acknowledgement!!!!
I'm afraid I understand sociopaths as well. Although I hate using that word to describe someone I've known. I am always concerned it does not engender understanding. Although in what I am speaking to here, that is something else.
For the psychopath to prosper, the average person must be gullible and weak.
It is not possible for psychopaths to dominate if they can't hypnotize masses of people into going along. But all hypnosis is accepted willingly and is desired by those hypnotized.
I don't know about desired. I feel what we are seeing being played out is more about trust and innocence.
I would also suggest that people live their lives, those whose lives have not been interrupted. Some have had to work very hard not to loose businesses that they have built up over many years.
They have put their trust in 'health organizations' and there is no reason they wouldn't. They believe the brainwashing, it's been a massive campaign. The reason they believe is built on structures put in place a long time ago. I don't believe they are gullible or weak. It isn't what I see.
Why would you distrust an organization named the Center for Disease Control. They are after all meant to protect the citizens of the US.
The reason for my sibling comment is because over the past year, I attempted to red-pill everyone I care about. Some people took the red pill; most did not.
In some cases, I was in an ideal position. A decades-long relationship with mutual trust, where I was able to incentivize the person, goad them out of their comfort zone, MAKE them take the information seriously and process it.
In this most ideal situation, the person took the information seriously, processed it, and it made them depressed. The person then rejected the information once again, resorted to ridicule, and our relationship concluded on the following note:
"Maybe it turns out you're right. But I can't live like this. If I believe this, it makes me depressed. Then I suffer and people suffer around me."
My wife can take the information, but a lower dose than me. If she spends too much time on it, it causes despair and panic.
There are other people who accepted the red pill, but it makes them depressed and they don't want to hear too much about it.
But most people reject the red pill in the first place. They can't bear to acknowledge it.
This is what I mean by gullibility and weakness. The hypnotized desire the hypnosis.
Can I propose a different way of looking at it?
This is trauma and abuse.
Impossible for most to hold.
Yes of course no one can hold it, it's agonizing. From your perspective really frustrating and isolating?
And knowing if people could see and hold it it wouldn't look this way.
Everything's upside down.
Yes, but the trauma and abuse were optional. It all could have been rejected upfront.
1% of psychopaths cannot get the rest to listen and follow, unless they want to.
Maybe I misunderstand you. But I don't believe anyone who understands they are being lied to and manipulated would willingly follow.
Part of this deception is about pitting us against each other.
If you can see, let yourself be another's strength.
The hypnotist provides a story, and the hypnotized want to believe it.
The reason we can't red-pill people is not because we lack evidence, it's because they don't want to look into it.
The reason they don't want to look into it is because they don't like uncomfortable truths. They prefer nice things and nice stories.
We could literally have the New York Times publish everything we know as fact. All it would take for the hypnotized to continue their hypnosis, would be for the New York Times to also publish the opposite narrative in another article in the same issue.
They believe lies because they choose to. They like them. They want them. They cannot, do not want to face discomfort.
I understand what you are saying. I often think if I could invent stories to tell myself (about something else) I might believe them and I would shift. I suppose the invented stories are the one's most believe and they can live their lives as if an insanely massive tsunami is not heading their way. As if there is not something terrifying in their body. (hot lots and all, we can't know how this is going to look)
Is this cut off?
The above comment appears complete to me, but I added another one for a personal clarification. I believe you've seen both comments.
I just have my phone and my data is slow right now. I can turn it but then it jumps around.
When I was growing up my mom seemed to think of the New York Times as the bible,
Think more broadly... A pathological mind is capable of many things, just one avenue of which may be trickery.
It's not necessarily "feelings" we're talking about here... maybe. I think there's a difference between what we call "feelings" and we call "attitudes" or "ideation." There's a huge difference, to me, between what most of us would call "compassion," and what some would call "superiority." One can say "I feel superior to other animals," and still have compassion for them. But if someone feels superior to other humans, as in, ALL other humans, and feels NO compassion for them, or for animals, that is deemed to be pathological... The term sociopath can be broken down into "socio" or other people, and "path" or pathology, which is sickness. Same sort of thing for "psychopath"-- "psyche" is the root word for the "mind" and again, "path" being sickness. As a layperson, and NOT a trained psychologist, it's my understanding that sociopaths differ from psychopaths in that a sociopath may be created by circumstances; a psychopath appears to be born that way. Sociopaths also seem to have some kind of concern for say, their family, offspring, etc. Psychopaths appear to have concern only for their families in as far as their families obey them and carry on their "name." In either case, and particularly in the case of a psychopath, there is no conscience, and no ability to understand the feelings of others. To a psychopath, everyone and everything else, anywhere, is an object, and the object has a duty to serve the psychopath. Clinicians call this "pathology." I call it "Evil." The utter lack of concern for other people, even death of others, utter destruction, and a distinct inclination to gain satisfaction or even excitement from the suffering and/or death of others, is the nature of Evil, in my view.
And PS... I do think humans have a strong tendency to "make things up" to explain what they do not understand... or what cannot be known in this life.
No offense, I am not religious, but well-educated in Christianity and therefore somewhat in the Old Testament as well... Some people consider Scripture as almost a dictation. I do not. Because an ancient man wrote something about what "God" thinks, says, or feels, does not make it necessarily correct. ALL of our belief systems are just that... Belief. That's my view of it anyway. Remember, this is the same book that talks about creating the Earth in a week, and Eve being created from a rib of Adam. Metaphor, and surely inaccurate, in the world we live in today. Sorry if I am treating any of your beliefs in a sort of callous way.
Sometimes I wonder if two people are in complete agreement but can't find their way to each other. That words are like fences or barricades creating more separation than union.
I do not in any way mean to imply that you both do not have a beautiful facility of thought.